Just to make you all sick, I bought a set from a Fatcog member (sorry mate!), who couldn't use them because the steerer was too short, had a word with a top GB frame builder who welded a new one on a resprayed at a very good rate. Bobs your uncle, old Big ones with ahead for not a a lot of notes! I'll post pics as soon as I've worked out how to host them (can any of you guys do that for me, the pics are well worth it!)